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| Wednesday, 4th April, 2007 at 22:46 pm | |||
Abortion: My View | |||
Here in the UK and even more so in Sweden, where I grew up, you might as well say that you kick your dog, or that you are a fascist… Being against abortion is considered to be both very odd and very extreme. It’s taken for granted that the average person is completely comfortable with abortions.
A Parallel Between Alcohol and Abortion
What I am about to write would probably cause me to loose several of my best friends if they read it. (I am not sure, but I think so at any rate..).
Here it Goes:
I am against abortions! I think they should be illegal and strongly discouraged in a similar fashion to society’s approach to drugs. The mother’s life comes before that of the baby of course! No question about that to me. But sloppiness with contraception, ‘bad timing’ of the pregnancy, absence of a father etc should not be reasons for abortion.
(I think people would probably be a lot more careful with contraception if they knew that abortion was not an option. It is amazing how many women I know who claim to have fallen into the 3% category of pregnancies that occur despite proper usage of contraception… Interestingly it is a good 50% of all my closest friends. I love them to bits, but I don’t believe they are that statistically unusual.)
Or, an even simpler approach to avoid unwanted pregnancies; Don’t sleep around! (Religious justification or not, personally I have always thought too highly of myself to behave in a way that could be categorized as slutty! have always had the opinion that my body is my ‘temple’ and that I most certainly am not going to let some random guy worship there! I don’t understand why other women don’t feel the same about themselves… Plus, an act that can lead to new life should not be treated as any other everyday act!)
Well, either the stats are wrong, or my friends are not as careful as they think they are! (Also, I also can’t help but to think that the baby must be quite a little fighter if it indeed manages to be created despite proper use of contraception! Surely a special baby! )
Picture of a Home for Mothers in the US.
No Solutions?
Why not offer the pregnant woman a no-cost place in a great facility for un-wed mothers if she is single? The 1960s image of such places is outdated. Really, it could be turned into a very positive experience. If she doesn’t already have a job that she likes, then, while she is pregnant, help her with vocational training or academic studies and generally treat her like a princess… (None of that ‘making her feel guilty’ that they tried back in the days…)
I’d be the first to volounteer my time to teach IT skills at such a place! How bad could it possibly be to stay at a nice facility for a few months while getting free food, training and advice? Surely no worse than the knowledge that you had an abortion! The government and religious organizations could sponsor the facilities. The governments in Europe are always on about the fact that there are too few babies being born… Or, who knows, maybe some company would be interested in sponsoring too?
Treat her like a princess, provide training and advice!
Offer her the option to keep the baby or put it up for adoption depending on what she feels most comfortable with. Don’t push her into any decision. Continue supporting her after the birth of the baby, making sure that the baby is well looked after and that the mother is able to support her family and find adequate childcare if necessary.
The Unthinkable Situation…
At this point most women would immediately say “Well, what if she was raped? Surely then you would agree that she should get an abortion, no questions asked…?”
To start with, pregnancy as a result of a rape is really not that common. It happens a lot more in fiction/drama than in real life. The rape would only have a 10% chance of occurring at a time when the woman was fertile in the first place. Even during that small window, there is only a 1/3 chance of getting pregnant, if I remember things correctly. Plus, a a large proportion of women take the pill anyway, or use some other form of protection. So for a date-rape or some kind of violent attack, a pregnancy is pretty unlikely to be the outcome. (I suppose it would eventually happen in those nasty ongoing abuse/incest situations that you sometimes read about though.)
In addition, there are plenty of things that a woman can do to significantly reduce her risk of becoming the victim of rape. Probably a very un-PC statement, but it really helps if you are NOT out and about late at night, drunk and dressed in a miniskirt and a super-tight top…
(Every Saturday, if I am home, I see hundreds of women doing exactly that more or less outside my house. For any man with the slightest tendency in that direction, it must be a real sight. I often see young women in a really bad way collapsed at the benches down by the river.)
Also, not bringing strangers home, or going to their place the first time you meet them is a sensible pre-caution. Or seriously leading a sex-deprived guy on with physical contact and then pull back… (I accidentally did that once as a teenager. Luckily the guy snapped out of it in the last minute and I learnt the lesson for the future.)
However, if someone nevertheless had maximum bad luck and found herself pregnant as a result of rape, wouldn’t most people want to keep the child and let good prevail over evil? Otherwise the rape would lead to further bad actions in the form of abortion!
I don’t agree with them anymore…
There are often stories in women’s magazines about women who kept a child that was conceived as a result of a rape. All such stories end with the woman saying she is so happy about her decision, and that the baby helped her get over the rape. I read such a story the other day. The child in the story was adorable, She was mixed race, as the rapist had been black. I imagine it must be awful for the mother to answer question about her daughter’s father though. Having the baby and giving it up must be awful though, but still better than an abortion in my opinion.
In the ‘90s there was a case that got a lot of publicity. It was to do with a 14-year old girl in Ireland. She had become pregnant as a result of a being raped, and wanted to go to the UK to have an abortion (abortions are not legal in Ireland..). Her intentions became known to the Irish police and she was told that she wasn’t allowed to leave the country.
At the time that this happened, I really felt for the girl, and was appalled that the Irish wouldn’t let her go. Now I am not so sure anymore. The problem ‘solved itself’ in a rather sad way; the girl had a miscarriage.
Conclusion
To finish, I’d like to say that I don’t judge women who had an abortion. Anybody can have back luck or make a mistake. In Northern Europe we are brought up to believe that terminating unwanted pregancies is perfectly normal and acceptable. The view that there could be something wrong with this approach is presented as backwards, anti-feminist and generally negative.
From my own perspective, getting pregnant right now (not that there is any risk of that… ) would be terribly inconvenient. It is certainly not compatible with the kind of job that I do. Being a single mother sounds really tough. But I’d do it nevertheless! I know I’ve been brought up with the belief that any badly timed pregnancies should be terminated. But I just couldn’t do it.
I just wish that people would question the existing view on abortion. It was considered immoral for thousands of years. Things have really only been different for the last thirty years or so. Every major religion condemns it. Are we really so much wiser than all generations before us?
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Hi. Your site is very interesting. Everything I read is exciting and has many things to think of. I was surprised that your perspective of life how different is from the “modern(?)” way of thinking. I think that people like you are very rare in western countries and everybody is concentrated on himself and belives everything except christian theories. That’s sad.
Regarding abortion, I think that abortion is a crime. If you kill a baby than sex is more important for you than the family. If you are not responsible for the pregnancy (rape, etc.) than things get more complicated. It depends on you, wheter you can live your life with a child that is a result of a horrible act, or knowing yourself as a murderer.
(The last time I posted a comment, nothing happened. It was ab. 1 week ago. If you have to approve the comments, please delete this part. I’d like to contact you is I’m not bothering you by this. It would be great to share some thoughts. I think, it would be a good idea if visitors could write to you. Just like posting a comment, but you get the message in your mailbox. If you get this comment… and if not the fault of my browser that I can’t send a mesasge, please contact me via e-mail.)
Hi! Great comment, thanks! I appreciate the encouragement!
The reason for setting up this site was partly to help me understand the feelings and thoughts that I have, that are completely alien to the upbringing I had. I cant quite work it out…
I don’t know what happened to your other comment, but thanks for this one! I wish more people would comment so that I know whether I am making sense or not.
Can I point out that at least we don’t have “on demand” abortion here in the UK, although I doubt they stick to it very well. You can get an abortion for social and monetary reasons so I bet that not being able to afford the latest designer pram is enough to qualify for an abortion these days.
I don’t think that saying abortion is wrong will get you into much trouble in most places in the UK, but you work in London which, like any big city, is generally not representative of the rest of the country so I wouldn’t bring it up in your work place (what happened to freedom of speech?). I don’t think that 100% banning abortion would be well received but merely saying that it’s wrong has never gotten me into trouble and I’m a 21 year old guy (and a lot of people, especially women my age, seem to agree with me).
I think the UK, and the west in general, is becoming more conservative. How can people complain about chavs and not set a better example themselves? Listening to everyone around me and at how disconnected the people at the top seem to be, things better start changing soon. If Hitler 2.0 came round in a couple of years promising to solve our social problems then I really think he would get elected. People are getting desperate.
Thanks for the comment. I must admit I don’t know the details of how abortions work here in the UK. I wouldn’t have thought Marie Stopes tries to discourage people though..?
From their ads you get the impression that it’s more or less a pop-in, pop-out kind of arrangement.
Yet, the UK is more conservative than Sweden about these types of issues. You are right that there are still some quite traditional values around in England.
I have lived elsewhere in England actually, but here in London it is almost as if you are cut off from the rest of the country. You forget it exists…
The English countryside is so much nicer than London and people are often very caring and community oriented. People were lovely towards me when I first arrived in the UK, in Yorkshire.
The “Hitler 2.0″ comment was both interesting and funny (if one is a bit geeky like me!) It certainly got me thinking.
Where are the Marie Stopes adverts? Are they in women’s magazines or hidden in women’s toilets? I’ve seriously never even heard of such things.
Hi again! The Marie Stopes ads are in womens’ magazines, which obviously makes sense… In glossy magazines the ads are at the back. Usually alongside ads for breast enhancement and tummy tucks (which you probably haven’t seen either!
There are also little cards scattered about in strategic places although I can’t remember an exact location.
However Marie Stopes actually has a campaign in the underground right now! There are posters at the walls in the escalators shafts. I saw it yesterday when I was travelling home.
The message is quite discreet though. I guess they have to, since it’s in the tube. The message says: “Pregnant and unsure? We are on your side.”
(I thought that would be a bit like McDonald’s saying to a fat person “Hungry and unsure…? We are on your side…” ) Abortion is their business, so I am not so sure how impartial they are. I can’t imagine that they try to talk anybody out of it at any rate.
The fact that they are around at all means that plenty of people will use their services. I was aware of them before I realised I was against abortion. I suppose there is a small chance I might have got myself in a position where I might have considererd using their services.. They try to pitch themselves as an outfit for professional women, and that they are in the business to help women. Most ads I have seen focus on how easy and quick the procedure is. I guess there must be laws regulating what they could say in an ad. They’re probably not allowed to go ahead and make any statement they want.
You know, I’ve skimmed a few women’s magazines in my time and never noticed any ads like that. Maybe they’re only in magazines aimed at professional older women because I only ever see magazines aimed at younger women lying about. Then again, those magazines are pretty much 50% ads so I wouldn’t be surprised if I missed something.
Though, doesn’t it all seem a bit … I don’t know what? “Get new breasts”, “have your fat sucked out during your lunch break”, it’s the kind of thing they would either make fun of or dread in 80s/early 90s SciFi. Fifteen years ago fake adverts for these type of things were put in films and TV shows to mock our vanity and consumerism, and now they’re for real!
As for the adverts down on the tube, well that place is a parallel universe! Very few children ever seem to be down there and most people who use it seem to be cut from the same cloth. So advertisers narrow in on who they know is most likely to be down there (20-50 year old professionals).
The ads on TV are aimed at a national audience; shampoo, beer, latest films, etc. Down on the tube it’s more like; latest West End play, some fancy PDA/smartphone (these actually interest me), holidays, the latest pretentious book, gambling and more holidays (are they overworked?). I think it even extends outside of the tube a bit; I rarely see billboards for BBC shows but they’re everywhere in London.
It seems obvious to me that advertising in London is very specialised towards the type of people who live there, and because of it it’s quite easy to see how Londoners get their self-centred holier than thou attitude that annoys everyone else. They read all those books, go on all those holidays, earn a lot of money and then claim to be “cultured” and “better” and think they represent the UK. Yet they’ve rarely travelled, much less lived, beyond the reach of the tube (and if they have, they’ve now escaped that brutish life to work in the glorious metropolis).
(It may seem like I hate Londoners, but a couple of miles further east and I would have been one. It’s just that I’ve seen the alternative. Not that I moved to some seriously chilled out Caribbean island, but I moved far enough.)
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