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I don’t know if the “Little Mermaid” sculpture in the harbour of Copenhagen is well known outside Scandinavia?
.Lille Havsfrue as she is Lille Havsfrue on a normal day
Within Scandinavia this cool and pretty sculpture is a well-known landmark though. Everybody knows of her and she is a bit of a national symbol of Denmark. I have seen her in the distance, but never up front. You can’t help but like her! In Danish she is called “Lille Havsfrue”.

Apparently a prank was played on the Little Mermaid the other day, as she was dressed up in full moslem female dress. Well, she isn’t exactly the most modest girl, posing naked in the harbour for almost a hundred years!

The prank was played by unknown person(s) who wanted to draw attention to Turkey’s potential entry into the EU. He put a sign saying “70 million Turks in the EU?”

Turkey has been wanting in (to the EU) for at least 20 years and now finds itself overtaken by countries like Romania (known for corruption and poverty since the fall of communism there) and Bulgaria.
.Mermaid in jilbab Lille Havsfrue as a modest muslima…
Another interesting question is, will Moslem extremists get upset with Denmark again, like they did about the Mohammed cartoons… Or will they let this one pass?

TURKEY’S EU QUEST

As I understand it, the main reasons sited for the delay / refusal in accepting Turkey into the EU are:

  • The fact that the great majority of Turkey’s land-mass is not in fact located in Europe at all, but in Asia/Middle East.
  • The widespread perception that Turkey is oppressing it’s Kurdish minority, sometimes persecuting and torturing Kurds.
  • The fact that Turkey is almost completely moslem and additionally does not “share the European heritage” that the rest of the EU countries do.
  • The EU would find itself a neighbour of Iran, Iraq and Syria which all border Turkey…
  • The Cyprus situation. Because of it, Greece does not like Turkey at all and Greece is already a member state with full voting powers..r

Turkeys population is approx. 70 million which would make it the second largest (and most influential) country in the EU after Germany. Germany has, for historical reasons, been very careful not to abuse this situation, being the mild and gentle giant of the EU after its national re-unification. It is far from certain that Turkey would behave in the same way; in fact most evidence would point to the opposite.
Turkey in Asia and EuropeFuture Europeans in the EU… or Middle Eastern Turks?
Btw, where are the girlies?

Personally I agree with this. I do not feel that Turkey belongs in the EU right now. The recent expansion of the EU has happened very fast. The idea with Eastern Europe has been that it is better that certain new member states are taken in before they are quite ready financially and politically (i.e. decent state finances and solid western-style democracy), as the alternative is even worse.

The alternative would have been for their economies and finances to develop much slower, in the shadows of the Western European countries. Being second-tier economies, they’d remain corrupt and with high criminality. Sooner or later they would inevitably join the EU anyway, as they undisputably European. The days of waiting in the outskirts are now over as Poles and Estonians members on almost equal standing to France, Germany and the UK. And enthusiastic members they are too, at least the Poles!

I suppose it could be said that it is hippocrisy to let some of the new Eastern member states in, but not Turkey. After all, the largest Turkish city, Istanbul is located in Europe. And Turkey had wanted membership in the EU ‘club’ ong before even the fall of the iron curtain! So is it just Islamophobia and European cultural snobbery that is keeping Turkey out?
Turkey in Asia and Europe The tiny North West peninsula where Istanbul is, is in Europe.
Capital Ankara is in Asia.

I am not sure that I know the answer to that! I am not categorically against Turkish membership but I really don’t want it right now. I do not feel as if I share a common culture and heritage with the Turks, and the stories that you hear from there underlines this. Bride-snatching, honour-killings, torturing of political prisoners and the bizarre relationship between the state and its main religion, Islam, makes me feel as if Turkey does not (yet) belong in the EU.

Whereas I feel that I could live in any other member-state if there was a good reason to do so, I can’t imagine living in Turkey. Certainly not as a single woman at any rate. (In all honesty that goes for Romania and Bulgaria too right now).

There have been some pretty bad clashes of culture between Turkish economical migrants and local populations in Germany and Scandinavia. Whether integration has worked or not is highly debatable. Migration of Italians and Greek to Northern Europe has not been a problem though. This too shows that the cultural differences are pretty big, even between Turkey and Greece, one if its neighbours.

In a longer perspective, Turkey will probably become a formidable country-bridge between East and West again. Just imagine how things would change for Turkey if the Middle East became democratic and peaceful. Turkey is large enough to play an independent role both politically and geograpically… It occupies some of the strategically most important real estate on the planet. But can Turkey ever become an integrated part of the European Union and a potential future “United States of Europe”?

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Tuesday 22nd May 2007 by: Elijah

Haha.

Don’t you mean the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of Europe?

Monday 28th May 2007 by: Will

Thats funny and scary all in one moment. Whom ever it was who did it made a great point. Some day I hope to see Lille Havsfrue my self, and I hope she is still in the harbor and not sequestered in a museum of Danish culture because she is unaceptable to view culturally anymore.

Ha det bra!

Thursday 28th June 2007 by: Cinar

I was searching for Danish folkloric music to use in a slideshow I made about Denmark and bumped into your site and when I saw the writing above I was curious and have read it carefully.
First of all, I am a fifty year old Turk living in Istanbul, studied in a German Highschool in Istanbul years ago where I had to learn German and English and had to make Abitur to be accepted to a German University. After I was accepted into Darmstadt TH, I decided I did not like Germany and moved to the US and got my degree in the US and after college worked in different positions in Turkey.
You must know that Turkey is one of the least understood counties in the world by Europeans. The main reason for this is the Turkish peasenets (laborers)’ immigration from the Turkish villages directly to the industrial centers of Europe years ago where they lived a cultural shock. You all know the consequences. Most Europeans think of Turkey along the lifestyles of these people and their descendants in Europe at the moment which is totally misleading. To understand the reality one should come and see the main Turkish metropolitan areas. Not only Istanbul, I mean the other major cities in Anatolia. You will be surprised to find out how “European” Turkish society is compared to some of the European countries at the moment. People here just have different traditions and lifestyles, just like a Corsican has compared to somebody from Helsinki for example.
The Kurdish population concentrated mainly in the southeastern part of Turkey sum up to almost 15 out of 70 million. They are by no means a minority. Anatolian land is the world’s number one melting pot (much more mixed than the USA) as far as social and etnical background is concerned. All these etnical groups have been living together here since centuries. We share a common history of Cristhian, Moslem, Jewish and Pagan religions.
Most of the news you hear in the media about Turkey in the last decades give you only a partial picture. Without seeing the whole picture most of the times you naturally jump to wrong conclusions.
You must differentiate the Kurdish origined people from the terrorist organization of PKK who killed closed to 3000 Turkish citizens including the ones from Kurdish origins by ambushes and bombing only since the beginning of this year. You could compare the situation to the old IRA from Ireland for eample. Unfortunately PKK still enjoys a wide financial support from some European Countries and USA to continue its terrorist activities here in exchange of some of the controlling power of the Northern Iraqi Oil and other international benefits in the area.
Offcourse a big majority of Turkey is Moslem. However, our understanding of Moslem religion is far different compared to the rest of the Islam World, who does not like our interpretation of the religion. So, Turkey does not and does not want to belong to that part of the world. On the other hand a big majority of people here believe that we should not join the EU also.
We all will see how things will turn up and whatever happens, I hope it will make people happy from all sides.

Thursday 12th July 2007 by: Beaman

I agree with the majority of your points in this post. I don’t think Turkey should gain EU membership but it could gain a ’special relationship’ status nevertheless. I don’t think Islamic politics can integrate with European politics and can only see friction if Turkey joins especially regarding free speech and blasphemy laws.

Tuesday 5th February 2008 by: kurt björk

Islam är lika missbrukad som kristendomen av moral majority och turkiet är sekulariserat. Militär och akademiker vill bibehålla sekulariseringen!!men väst ffa. Sverige/svenskar motsätter sig Turkiska statens protester mot ickesekulriserade partier. Cypern “frågan” visar västs historielöshet. Under Grekiska militärdiktaturen ville starka grekcypriotiska krafter grekifiera hela cypern. Inget land i väst kom till turkcyprioternas hjälp. När grekjuntan föll så ville grekcyprioterna börja från ruta ett. Historiskt ligger hela ansvaret på grekcyprioter/grekland samt västs flathet under militärjuntan. Kurderna och kurdfrågan är historiskt engelsmännens kolonialrest med hela mellanösterns kartor ritade med linjal och inte efter folk, folkslag och natur. Persien och Egypten var fungerande stater resten var diverse folk,folkstammar som levde i karga och fattiga område…..till OLJAN upptäcktes. Familjen Saudi fick ett helt land uppkallat efter sig och något Kurdistan fanns lika lite som Sameland i norra Sverige/Norge/Finland/Ryssland. Att där bodde och bor kurder är inte samma som att det är en fungerande stat.

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